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		<title>By: Ceaffiree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ceaffiree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cool site :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cool site <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: easeliops</title>
		<link>http://nailinpalin.wordpress.com/2008/09/11/open-thread-2/#comment-106</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 
Nice site! 
 
G&#039;night</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
Nice site! </p>
<p>G&#8217;night</p>
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		<title>By: santaklausSE</title>
		<link>http://nailinpalin.wordpress.com/2008/09/11/open-thread-2/#comment-91</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very nice site :)</description>
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		<title>By: Krysti</title>
		<link>http://nailinpalin.wordpress.com/2008/09/11/open-thread-2/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Krysti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Adam....You and I are on the same page on this. :)</description>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://nailinpalin.wordpress.com/2008/09/11/open-thread-2/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Krysti - I&#039;m a realist.. I know that we&#039;ll never see a day when voter turnout will be drasically over 50%. It hasn&#039;t been at 60% or higher since 1968 and about 2/3rds that in a non-presidential election year. Its been hovering right around the 50-55% mark give or take a point or two since the 70s. But my personal opinion is that if you don&#039;t vote you don&#039;t have the right to bitch about elected officials or policy changes. When I hear someone complaining about Bush, or the so called &quot;do-nothing&quot; congress I ask them if they voted, and if they say no then I tell them not to bitch. 

When someone says they&#039;d wavering on not voting than vote for one candidate or another I would ask them if they&#039;re registered or if they&#039;ve voted in the past if either answer is no, refer to the last paragraph, if the answer is yes, I would tell them to pick out the issue they feel deserves the most change (and let&#039;s face it elections, are about change. Change in leaders and policy.&quot;) and vote accordingly. If they really choose not to vote for one or another, then I&#039;d tell them not to vote and then see paragraph 1.

@ Aung
In the eyes of the furthest right wing people not having an opinion of abortion is the same as being pro-choice and the last thing I heard was that McCain chooses not to take a side, he is personally pro-life, but he doesn&#039;t make an issue because he chooses (keyword) not to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Krysti &#8211; I&#8217;m a realist.. I know that we&#8217;ll never see a day when voter turnout will be drasically over 50%. It hasn&#8217;t been at 60% or higher since 1968 and about 2/3rds that in a non-presidential election year. Its been hovering right around the 50-55% mark give or take a point or two since the 70s. But my personal opinion is that if you don&#8217;t vote you don&#8217;t have the right to bitch about elected officials or policy changes. When I hear someone complaining about Bush, or the so called &#8220;do-nothing&#8221; congress I ask them if they voted, and if they say no then I tell them not to bitch. </p>
<p>When someone says they&#8217;d wavering on not voting than vote for one candidate or another I would ask them if they&#8217;re registered or if they&#8217;ve voted in the past if either answer is no, refer to the last paragraph, if the answer is yes, I would tell them to pick out the issue they feel deserves the most change (and let&#8217;s face it elections, are about change. Change in leaders and policy.&#8221;) and vote accordingly. If they really choose not to vote for one or another, then I&#8217;d tell them not to vote and then see paragraph 1.</p>
<p>@ Aung<br />
In the eyes of the furthest right wing people not having an opinion of abortion is the same as being pro-choice and the last thing I heard was that McCain chooses not to take a side, he is personally pro-life, but he doesn&#8217;t make an issue because he chooses (keyword) not to.</p>
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		<title>By: Aung Kyaw</title>
		<link>http://nailinpalin.wordpress.com/2008/09/11/open-thread-2/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Aung Kyaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can sympathize with the pro-life movement&#039;s views on abortion, but banning abortion even in cases of rape and incest is too extremist, especially when a sounding majority of Americans support abortion rights. 

While people should have a pretty good idea what&#039;s in store for them if they&#039;re having unprotected sex or sex with improper protection, nobody ever plans to get raped or be the victim of incest. In the U.S., someone gets raped every 6 minutes.To dismiss the idea that a woman who has been a victim of rape or incest cannot have a choice is improper.

Talk about Republicans with their idea of small government and how they seek to prevent the govt. from meddling with people&#039;s daily lives. A bunch of hogwash. The ideological problems the GOP faces are because they keep trying to work in 1980s Reaganism into the 21st century world. Even today, pro-choice Republicans like Tom Ridge are ostracized by the party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can sympathize with the pro-life movement&#8217;s views on abortion, but banning abortion even in cases of rape and incest is too extremist, especially when a sounding majority of Americans support abortion rights. </p>
<p>While people should have a pretty good idea what&#8217;s in store for them if they&#8217;re having unprotected sex or sex with improper protection, nobody ever plans to get raped or be the victim of incest. In the U.S., someone gets raped every 6 minutes.To dismiss the idea that a woman who has been a victim of rape or incest cannot have a choice is improper.</p>
<p>Talk about Republicans with their idea of small government and how they seek to prevent the govt. from meddling with people&#8217;s daily lives. A bunch of hogwash. The ideological problems the GOP faces are because they keep trying to work in 1980s Reaganism into the 21st century world. Even today, pro-choice Republicans like Tom Ridge are ostracized by the party.</p>
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		<title>By: Krysti</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 03:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam,  your post on Guide to Voting, brought up another topic where I am interested to hear your opinion.  Instead of garble that thread (btw, I find that to be a great post), I came here.  

What do you think of people who do not exercise their right to vote?

When those same people say they didn&#039;t vote because they didn&#039;t like either (GOP or DEM) candidate, what would your response to them be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam,  your post on Guide to Voting, brought up another topic where I am interested to hear your opinion.  Instead of garble that thread (btw, I find that to be a great post), I came here.  </p>
<p>What do you think of people who do not exercise their right to vote?</p>
<p>When those same people say they didn&#8217;t vote because they didn&#8217;t like either (GOP or DEM) candidate, what would your response to them be?</p>
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		<title>By: Krysti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krysti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Shawn.... I am inclined to agree with you (#5).  Thanks for the props on the button.  I must admit, it stirs things up with hard-core conservatices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Shawn&#8230;. I am inclined to agree with you (#5).  Thanks for the props on the button.  I must admit, it stirs things up with hard-core conservatices.</p>
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		<title>By: Krysti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krysti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackie,  It is unfortunate that not all parents are as open with their kids as I am.  I am not disagreeing that sex education has some place in schools.  I just disagree with those (parents) that rely on the schools to teach it without further discussion at home.  And since schools cannot prescribe birth control or hand out condoms, the kids who aren&#039;t able to talk with their parents are only getting basic information anyway, no real protection other than scare tactics.

I see your point about the Supreme Court Justices.  however, Roe v. Wade has been decided on since 1973.   No one has had the power to change it 34 years. Not to mention, Article II of the Constitution only gives the President power to nominate justices, who are then appointed &quot;by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate.&quot;  So, ultimately, the decision is not just in McCain&#039;s and/or Palin&#039;s hands.

Adam, I agree that sex education in schools rely enormously on scare tactics.  As for home schooling, I think that choice should be left to the parents.  While I agree that not all homeschoolers are qualified to do so (I know I am not), homeschoolers must pass certain state tests to continue to be homeschooled.  I am not an expert in this area, but know many parents that do home school and they are required to provide lesson plans and the like, just like the public school teachers.  I happen to live in &quot;the home-school capital&quot; where there are co-ops of home-school parents that take turns teaching each others kids.  Almost like high-school where they &quot;switch classes&quot;.  There is a college in our town that consists primarily of home-schooled kids.  While I think these kids miss out on certain social experiences (although this is getting better with home-school football teams, etc.) , they all seem to be well-educated and good members of society.  Not to mention, I haven&#039;t seen any of the girls pregnant.

I am inclined to agree with you about informed consent and that of maturity levels.  At 37, I still find myself in situations where I might be a bit immature. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackie,  It is unfortunate that not all parents are as open with their kids as I am.  I am not disagreeing that sex education has some place in schools.  I just disagree with those (parents) that rely on the schools to teach it without further discussion at home.  And since schools cannot prescribe birth control or hand out condoms, the kids who aren&#8217;t able to talk with their parents are only getting basic information anyway, no real protection other than scare tactics.</p>
<p>I see your point about the Supreme Court Justices.  however, Roe v. Wade has been decided on since 1973.   No one has had the power to change it 34 years. Not to mention, Article II of the Constitution only gives the President power to nominate justices, who are then appointed &#8220;by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate.&#8221;  So, ultimately, the decision is not just in McCain&#8217;s and/or Palin&#8217;s hands.</p>
<p>Adam, I agree that sex education in schools rely enormously on scare tactics.  As for home schooling, I think that choice should be left to the parents.  While I agree that not all homeschoolers are qualified to do so (I know I am not), homeschoolers must pass certain state tests to continue to be homeschooled.  I am not an expert in this area, but know many parents that do home school and they are required to provide lesson plans and the like, just like the public school teachers.  I happen to live in &#8220;the home-school capital&#8221; where there are co-ops of home-school parents that take turns teaching each others kids.  Almost like high-school where they &#8220;switch classes&#8221;.  There is a college in our town that consists primarily of home-schooled kids.  While I think these kids miss out on certain social experiences (although this is getting better with home-school football teams, etc.) , they all seem to be well-educated and good members of society.  Not to mention, I haven&#8217;t seen any of the girls pregnant.</p>
<p>I am inclined to agree with you about informed consent and that of maturity levels.  At 37, I still find myself in situations where I might be a bit immature. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooooh, people throwing down.  

@Krysti - I absolutely agree that parents need to have a more active role in their child&#039;s education.  Sex education and otherwise.  That said, sex education should be better taught in schools also--biology, abstinence, and prevention.   Schools can say &quot;this is what it is&quot; and parents can discuss the specifics with their children.  

(And I love the breast cancer button.)

@Jackie - McCain-Palin would have a difficult time overturning Roe v. Wade even with an entirely hand-picked Court.  

@Adam - Ballots can be overwhelming, but as a Congressman (Congress-person?), that&#039;s the job--know what is going on and vote for the side that will help their constituents the most.  If he is unable to understand the bill--the specifics, not just the gist of things--then he has no business sitting in Congress.  

If a surgeon makes a mistake and maims someone, we don&#039;t let her off because she has a difficult job, we hold her responsible.  Not holding our representatives responsible because &quot;It&#039;s a hard job&quot; is one of the reasons the government is a nightmare.  (The other is apathy, but I&#039;ll get to that later.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooh, people throwing down.  </p>
<p>@Krysti &#8211; I absolutely agree that parents need to have a more active role in their child&#8217;s education.  Sex education and otherwise.  That said, sex education should be better taught in schools also&#8211;biology, abstinence, and prevention.   Schools can say &#8220;this is what it is&#8221; and parents can discuss the specifics with their children.  </p>
<p>(And I love the breast cancer button.)</p>
<p>@Jackie &#8211; McCain-Palin would have a difficult time overturning Roe v. Wade even with an entirely hand-picked Court.  </p>
<p>@Adam &#8211; Ballots can be overwhelming, but as a Congressman (Congress-person?), that&#8217;s the job&#8211;know what is going on and vote for the side that will help their constituents the most.  If he is unable to understand the bill&#8211;the specifics, not just the gist of things&#8211;then he has no business sitting in Congress.  </p>
<p>If a surgeon makes a mistake and maims someone, we don&#8217;t let her off because she has a difficult job, we hold her responsible.  Not holding our representatives responsible because &#8220;It&#8217;s a hard job&#8221; is one of the reasons the government is a nightmare.  (The other is apathy, but I&#8217;ll get to that later.)</p>
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